His trades land in your webhook. Pay only when the trade wins.
Pick an analyst from the board. The moment he places an order, the alert — entry, stop, every exit — reaches your webhook, your Discord DMs and your speakers. A losing trade costs you nothing. A winning one costs a small percentage of his win. No subscription.
No monthly fee$0 on a losing trade$0 while you're behindEvery alert market-stampedStop with one tap
How it works
1The analyst places his order
On the PayoutProofs order ticket or from his own Tradovate account. Entry, stop and exits are stamped by the live price feed at the moment of the click. Only these market-stamped alerts are sent as Pay per Win signals; a manual Discord post is labelled "typed" on the record and is never sent.
2The alert is dispatched within seconds
Sized to your risk — you set the dollars one entry may lose, we work out the contracts at his stop. To your webhook, your Discord DMs and by voice. TradersPost may route the signal to a broker or present it for manual action, depending on the settings you configure there. Delivery time is not guaranteed.
3You pay only on a qualifying win
You pay the analyst’s percentage of the profit generated at your size — and only while you are ahead with that analyst overall. Losing trades, break-even trades and wins while you are still behind cost $0.
PayoutProofs is software, not a broker. We never log in to, connect to or see your brokerage account, never place or fill an order, and never hold your money. Your automation service and your broker do that, under your own settings.
Pick a trader
Every record below comes from market-stamped alerts, scored at 10 MES / 10 MNQ so traders compare on points, with the worst drawdown beside the net. Tap 📊 View record (or a name) for the full record — curve, calendar, every alert, and the replay using your selected risk setting.
HYPOTHETICAL PERFORMANCE RESULTS HAVE MANY INHERENT LIMITATIONS, SOME OF WHICH ARE DESCRIBED BELOW. NO REPRESENTATION IS BEING MADE THAT ANY ACCOUNT WILL OR IS LIKELY TO ACHIEVE PROFITS OR LOSSES SIMILAR TO THOSE SHOWN. IN FACT, THERE ARE FREQUENTLY SHARP DIFFERENCES BETWEEN HYPOTHETICAL PERFORMANCE RESULTS AND THE ACTUAL RESULTS SUBSEQUENTLY ACHIEVED BY ANY PARTICULAR TRADING PROGRAM. ONE OF THE LIMITATIONS OF HYPOTHETICAL PERFORMANCE RESULTS IS THAT THEY ARE GENERALLY PREPARED WITH THE BENEFIT OF HINDSIGHT. IN ADDITION, HYPOTHETICAL TRADING DOES NOT INVOLVE FINANCIAL RISK, AND NO HYPOTHETICAL TRADING RECORD CAN COMPLETELY ACCOUNT FOR THE IMPACT OF FINANCIAL RISK IN ACTUAL TRADING. FOR EXAMPLE, THE ABILITY TO WITHSTAND LOSSES OR TO ADHERE TO A PARTICULAR TRADING PROGRAM IN SPITE OF TRADING LOSSES ARE MATERIAL POINTS WHICH CAN ALSO ADVERSELY AFFECT ACTUAL TRADING RESULTS. THERE ARE NUMEROUS OTHER FACTORS RELATED TO THE MARKETS IN GENERAL OR TO THE IMPLEMENTATION OF ANY SPECIFIC TRADING PROGRAM WHICH CANNOT BE FULLY ACCOUNTED FOR IN THE PREPARATION OF HYPOTHETICAL PERFORMANCE RESULTS AND ALL OF WHICH CAN ADVERSELY AFFECT ACTUAL TRADING RESULTS.
The results on this page are hypothetical model results at a fixed size from the posted record, with no commissions, fees, spreads, slippage or fills modelled. They are not customer-account results. Past results do not predict future results.
Your size, your rules
Size — try your own numbers
Set the dollar amount used to calculate your signal quantity. We work out the contracts from the analyst’s entry and stop; it is a sizing input, not a guaranteed maximum loss.
Your limit$150
Risk per contract$75
Your trade2 contracts
If the calculated reference risk for one contract exceeds your risk setting, the entry is skipped.
Your risk — not the analyst’s quantity — determines your size. Try your own numbers:
What you see
Every message we sent, when and to where — and a warning if one could not be delivered.
A Transactions tab with every fee, the trade behind it and your running result per analyst.
A Report button on every charge, 30 days to use it. Upheld reports are refunded.
Tue 10:04 AMSam · CLOSE 10 MES @ 6,824.75 · +$625 at 10 contractsfee $156.25
Wed 9:48 AMSam · SELL 10 MES @ 6,840.00 · stopped @ 6,852.00 · −$600 at 10 contracts$0
Wed 1:10 PMSam · BUY 10 MES @ 6,831.50 · closed @ 6,838.50 · +$350 at 10 contracts · you were behind, so no fee$0
Illustration of the list, not real trades.
The fee
$0for a losing trade
$0for a break-even trade
$0while you are behind overall with that analyst
25%of what the analyst's trade made at your size, only on a qualifying win. Each analyst sets his own percentage; it is shown before you switch him on. A $100 win costs $25.
Six trades from one analyst whose fee is 25% of each win, at 1 contract. The last column is your running result with him after fees — it starts at $0 when you switch him on and never resets.
#Trade resultWhat happensFeeRunning
1−$300Losing trade — no fee.$0−$300
2+$250You are −$50 overall with Sam, below the $62 fee — no fee.$0−$50
3+$150Qualifying win: $150 reference profit per contract on Sam's order × 1 contract = $150 model profit. Fee $37 = 25% × $150, rounded down.$37+$63
4+$400Qualifying win: $400 reference profit per contract on Sam's order × 1 contract = $400 model profit. Fee $100 = 25% × $400, rounded down.$100+$363
5−$200Losing trade — no fee.$0+$163
6+$220Qualifying win: $220 reference profit per contract on Sam's order × 1 contract = $220 model profit. Fee $55 = 25% × $220, rounded down.$55+$328
The analyst's own order made a profit, and his percentage of it is at least $1 (rounded down to the dollar).
Your running result with him, including this trade, is at least the fee.
The entry alert was delivered: the destination you saved accepted the message (a webhook's successful response, or a sent Discord message). A successful webhook response does not mean TradersPost or your broker accepted, filled or correctly executed an order. A Discord destination counts the same as a webhook.
The fee formula
Reference profit per contract = the analyst's market-stamped profit or loss on his trade ÷ the quantity he traded.
Your model profit = reference profit per contract × the quantity in the signal we sent you.
Fee = the analyst's percentage × your positive qualifying model profit, rounded down to the dollar.
Example: he earns $1,000 on 10 MES — a reference profit of $100 for each contract. Your signal carried 20 MES → $2,000 model profit. At 25% the charge is $500.
No commissions, exchange fees, spreads or slippage are modelled. Partial exits are scored at his stamped exit prices on the contracts sent to you (cumulative %, rounded up). There is no total cap on a fee; it grows with your risk setting. Your daily loss limit limits signal delivery, not charges.
Charged whether or not you took the trade, measured at his stamped prices and the quantity we sent you — not at your broker's fills. Switch him off whenever you do not want the alerts.
Before you start. Your risk setting determines the quantity included in each entry signal; it does not guarantee a maximum loss. Fees are calculated from PayoutProofs reference prices and signal quantity — not your actual brokerage fills. You may be charged even if you do not trade the signal or your brokerage result is a loss. Alerts and orders may be delayed, rejected or not executed. See the Pay per Win Terms and the Risk Disclosure.
What we do, and what we do not do
PayoutProofs does
Send each alert — entry, every exit, stop moves, close — to the webhook you save, to your Discord DMs and by voice.
Show every message sent and warn you if one could not be delivered.
Keep the full history of every trade and fee.
PayoutProofs does not
Log in to, connect to or see your brokerage account.
Place, fill or manage orders — your automation service and broker do, under your settings.
Hold your money or your broker password, or give personal investment advice.
Three steps to start
Save a card once, through Whop's secure form. Saving it charges nothing; PayoutProofs never sees the number.
Save a webhook and send a test. A TradersPost webhook may route the alerts to the broker you connected there or hold them for manual action, depending on your TradersPost settings. A Discord webhook just posts them as messages. The test shows "received" before you go on.
Switch an analyst on using your required risk-per-entry setting and daily loss limit, after the authorization step. Off again with one tap, any time.
TradersPost set-up, step by step
TradersPost is a separate company with its own account, pricing and terms. PayoutProofs is not affiliated with it. Seven screens, about ten minutes.
Brokers → Connect Broker. Connect the broker account you want the signals to reach (Tradovate, your prop-firm account, or any broker TradersPost supports for futures). A green dot and "Enabled" means it is connected. For a first test you may use TradersPost's paper broker: per TradersPost, its paper broker handles futures only when a connected broker with live futures data is set as its market-data source, and paper execution has limitations and can differ from live trading.
Strategies → New Strategy. Asset class Futures; Allowed tickers Any tickers; tick Allow signal overrides. Allow auto submit only if you want automatic submission (see step 4). Allow live trading only if you intentionally want this strategy connected to a live brokerage account — leave it off for paper-only use. "Allow batch signals" is not needed: every PayoutProofs message carries one signal. Notifications: Only Failed Signals with your email. Security → Allowed IP addresses: Any IP addresses (not TradingView — our signals come from our servers, which do not have a fixed address; the secrecy of your webhook URL is what protects you). Save.
On the strategy, press Subscribe → Choose accounts → tick one broker account → Continue.
Fill the subscription form. Choose how signals are handled: Manual review — leave Auto Submit off; TradersPost asks you to approve or reject every incoming order, exits included. Automatic submission — Auto Submit on (and "Allow auto submit" on the strategy); incoming signals are submitted to the connected broker without further approval. Either way the Pay per Win fee is charged on the delivered signal, whether or not you traded it. Sides: Both Sides (not Long Only). Quantity multiplier left blank with its "Allow signal override" ticked — let the signal set the quantity; "Allow add to position" unticked. Entry order type Market; Stop loss type None (our signal attaches the stop itself); "Ignore exit signals" unticked. Tick "Allow signal override" for the fields our signals carry: Quantity, Order Type, Stop Loss and Exit; leave the others at your own defaults. Save, then Enable — the top of the page must read Enabled, not Disabled.
Press Webhook (top right of the subscription) and Copy the URL. It starts with https://webhooks.traderspost.io/trading/webhook/ — treat the entire URL as a password. Anyone who obtains it may be able to send trading signals to your strategy. Never publish it, include it in a screenshot, or send it through chat or email. If it is exposed, generate a new URL in TradersPost immediately and save the new one here.
Paste it into PayoutProofs (your room → the trader → Your webhook) → Save webhook → Check connection (proves only that TradersPost accepted a message — not that a broker executed anything) → Send test trade: buys 1 MES at market with a stop and sends "close everything" 10 seconds later. Warning: the test sends actual order instructions to the selected destination. If the subscription is on Auto Submit and connected to a live account, real orders are placed. Use a paper or simulated account for your first test and confirm the selected account and its PAPER / LIVE status before continuing. PayoutProofs cannot see which account type your webhook points at. The webhook is stored encrypted and never shown again.
If something does not arrive, it is almost always one of these: Manual Submit (orders waiting for your approval), subscription Disabled, Long Only, "Only selected tickers", or Allowed IP set to TradingView. PayoutProofs does not automatically resend an order that TradersPost or the broker rejects. Review the failure notification and inspect your broker account before acting by hand; resending without checking may create a duplicate position.
This is an independent setup guide for using PayoutProofs with TradersPost. TradersPost is a third-party service with its own pricing, eligibility requirements, documentation and terms, and its interface and settings may change. If this guide differs from TradersPost's current documentation, follow TradersPost's documentation and contact its support before enabling live trading.
Questions
Does the analyst's trade size matter to me?
No. Whether he trades 1 ES, 5 ES or 10 MES, your signal is sized from your risk per entry and his stop distance only: contracts = your risk ÷ what one contract risks at his stop, rounded down. $500 and a 15-point MES stop → 6 MES. $750 → 10 MES. The calculator above does the arithmetic for any numbers.
What if I want to risk less — or more — than the analyst does?
Type your own number. Risk per entry is yours, per analyst; his own limits are never applied to you. A smaller number means fewer contracts, a bigger number more; nothing else changes.
How do his trims and runners work at my size?
Every exit follows his percentage on your contracts, cumulative and rounded up to whole contracts. On 6 contracts, a 70% trim takes 5 and a further 20% takes the last one — the rounding closes the runner. From about 10 contracts a 70 / 20 / 10 plan leaves you a runner (7 out, 2 out, 1 runs).
What if his stop is wider than my risk covers?
If even one contract would risk more than your figure, that signal is skipped — nothing is sent and nothing is charged. You see it in your log with the reason.
Can I hold runners past the close?
Your choice, in the room: Allow runners to hold between 5 PM and 6 PM ET is on by default (check your broker's overnight margin). Untick it and at 4:50 PM ET we send a close for every open Pay per Win trade; it is scored and invoiced at the live price less 2 ticks against you, and your next alert from any analyst starts fresh.
Two analysts, one broker account?
Use the same webhook for both — we then send one trade at a time across them. A different webhook for a second analyst is asked to confirm it trades a separate broker account, because two analysts' orders in one account would collide.
What is the daily loss limit?
Your second number per analyst. Once your copies with him have lost that much in a session (5:00 PM to 5:00 PM ET), nothing more is sent until the next session. Exits for a trade already open are always sent.
What if the analyst has a losing week?
You pay nothing that week. Each loss lowers your running result with him, and no fee is taken until wins bring it back above the fee. Nobody can promise it comes back.
Is the running result per analyst?
Yes. Each analyst has his own, starting at $0 when you switch him on. A loss with one never affects fees with another.
What is "the analyst's win"?
His market-stamped profit on his own order across all exits, before commissions, divided by the quantity he traded — a reference profit per contract. Your model profit is that figure times the quantity in your signal; the fee is his percentage of your model profit.
Am I charged if I did not take the trade?
Yes, while it is switched on — like any alert service. Switch it off whenever you do not want the alerts.
Why can my account show less than the record?
The fee is measured at his stamped prices and your chosen size, not at your broker's fills. Your fills, commissions and exchange fees differ, so a trade can cost a fee while your account made less, or lost. Report any trade within 30 days under Transactions.
Can I follow more than one analyst?
Yes, each with his own risk per entry and his own running result.
Can I close a trade before the analyst does?
Yes — Send close alert on the trade (or Close all) sends a market close to your webhook. The trade is then scored at the live price less 2 ticks against you: a profit is invoiced at the analyst's fee, a loss is not, and his later exits are no longer yours.
Can I stop?
You can stop future entry signals at any time with one tap. No fees arise from new entries after stopping. Any trade already open continues receiving its management and exit signals and may still produce a fee under the settings accepted when it was opened — unless you close it yourself.
Are the alerts public?
Pay per Win alerts are not posted in Discord while the trade is live — they go to the members who switched that analyst on. Everyone sees the levels once the trade is fully closed.
Does an alert always reach my broker?
No service can guarantee that. We retry a failed delivery and warn you. Once TradersPost accepts it, what your broker does is between you, TradersPost and your broker.
Let his trades come to you.
No subscription. Nothing on a loss. A small share of a win.
Risk disclosure. Trading futures involves substantial risk of loss and is not suitable for every investor. You can lose more than you deposit. Past results, including the results on any analyst's public record, do not guarantee future results. The examples above are hypothetical and are shown only to explain how the fee is calculated; they are not a record of real trades and not a forecast. Analysts are independent traders posting their own trades. Nothing on PayoutProofs is personal investment, legal or tax advice, and no outcome is promised. Alerts may be delayed, rejected or not delivered. You alone decide whether to act on an alert or to automate it, and you are responsible for every order in your account. See the Terms.
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